Posts by J. Hofer

Makes you wonder how anointed women and men are going to make the transition when they are resurrected as perfect, immortal spirits to rule with Christ in heaven. Will women still be secondary to men?

that's an easy one. now that only the 7 (or so) old (or not so old) farts (still) in brooklyn are the only guys who rule the earthly denizens, the number of heavenly tickets may be reduced too. as paul said, there are at least 7 heavens, so women probably get the least one anyway.

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non believers what if your wrong ?

by unstopableravens in

i do not wish to debate anything here like i have said in the past i have much respect for most on this forum (believers and non believers) i am simply wondering if the atheist or non god believers every worry about what if your wrong?

it seems that many who were jw for so many years attach jehovah/yahweh with the watchtower and since the wt is wrong than god does not exist.

i ask this question only because i care about people and salvation thats why i want to help as many as possable come out of this cult,and since i truly believe in god i dont know what is in the cinscience of those who dont.

J. Hofer

i believe everything psacramento says... he knows karate!

anyway... so if we are all wrong? so what? so what if you are wrong? what if all of us are wrong and there's some alien called xenu who tossed a lot of aliens into a hawaiian volcano?

you know, if i'm wrong and jehovah or any other version of the bible god exists, it doesn't really matter. that guy sucks big time. i don't want to have anything to do with him, whether he exists or not. send me to hell if you like to. i have higher standards.

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Atheists and Theists... what do you want from us?

by tec in

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this is a spin from palm's thread on a truce.

but i think, instead of getting people to sugget ways that a truce could work... how about we list answers to this:.

atheists: what do you want from theists?.

J. Hofer

can we substitute the KFC for any other fried chicken? it's not like KFC is omnipresent in every part of the world (and i honestly prefer it that way).

on a side note, i'd like the scotch and cigar day to include steaks.

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A truce between Atheists and Non-Atheists?

by palmtree67 in

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ricky gervais tweeted this 11/14/12 and i totally agree with it:.

"there are good atheists and bad atheists.

there are good believers and bad believers.. no god has ever changed that.".

J. Hofer

Yes, we do operate on the assumption belief IS a choice. Many believers have stopped believing. And so have proven it is a choice to believe or not.

i have to disagree, believing something or not is not a choice. i just recently heard from a family member "you chose to leave jehovah". it wasn't a choice to "leave jehovah" (whatever that's supposed to mean). that belief just didn't make any sense anymore. you can't choose to believe something if you don't actually believe it - and vice versa. it's not a choice, it's more like an epiphany - by research or by eye-opening events.

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The Stand Fast Bible Students & Elijah Voice Society request!

by Atlantis in

stand fast bible students & elijah voice society request!.atlantis, i was in the organization for over 40 years and i never heard of the stand fast bible students or the elijah voice society.

would you have anything on these two groups?.reply:thanks for writing!

i do have a file you might want with some issues of the old corn gems in it that the stand fast bible students published, and there are some documents in the file from the elijah voice society.

J. Hofer

smithmandy1, is MENTALLY DESEASED addressed to the bible student/jw movement or to yourself? either way, you're probably right.

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creep

by J. Hofer in

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couldn't look you in the eye.

you're just like an angel.

your skin makes me cry.

J. Hofer

When you were here before
Couldn't look you in the eye
You're just like an angel
Your skin makes me cry
You float like a feather
In a beautiful world
I wish I was special
You're so fucking special

But I'm a creep
I'm a weirdo
What the hell am I doing here?
I don't belong here

I don't care if it hurts
I want to have control
I want a perfect body
I want a perfect soul
I want you to notice when I'm not around
You're so fucking special
I wish I was special

But I'm a creep
I'm a weirdo
What the hell I'm doing here?
I don't belong here

She's running out the door
She's running out
She runs runs runs runs
Runs

Whatever makes you happy
Whatever you want
You're so very special
I wish I was special

But I'm a creep
I'm a weirdo
What the hell am I doing here?
I don't belong here
I don't belong here